 |
|
|
Scene.org is hosted and supported by:
|
|
|
Scene.org is sponsored by:
|
|
|
|
|
 |
forum - #trax |
|
 | | Topic: | what tracker to use | | | hi there.
it's been a while since i used a tracker, about 8 years, i guess, but now, i want to restart. but ft2 doesn't work on my xp-system. so what tracker can you recommend? it would be great, if i could use my old .xi-files.
thanks a lot in advance,
hund | | |
| renoise or skale
they both look exactly like ft2, are win32 and heavily newschool featured (vst/asio)[Post edited by psenough on Tuesday 15 February 2005 - 17:34] | | |
| ok, thank you. i will try them out.
btw, what are vst instruments? (sorry to ask this, but hey .. 8 years ..) | | |
| they are like synths and effects boxes on software. they take midi inputs and they deliver sound out. they take sound in and process it into sound out. you can rack them in chains and make your "hello world" sample sound like a rollercoaster on e.
http://www.kvraudio.com/ is a nice place to start.[Post edited by psenough on Wednesday 16 February 2005 - 18:17] | | |
| If you want people to re-use your (xm) modules then modplug may be the solution.
Otherwise renoise (commercial) or pyscle (gpl) which are much better than skale (sux imho) or eventually buzz. | | |
| latest version of skale was pretty decent. i didnt abuse so i didnt really find any bugs but it looked pretty solid and up to the bar feature wise as renoise.. why do you say it sucks? O_o
about buzz its pretty nice for its massive ammount of comunitary development. but yeh it does crash shitloads and is abit annoying to work with at times. it's been really improving control wise though, and you dont have to pay for it, unlike reaktor or max (talking about solid progs with lots of internal machines here.. dont wanna mention the betastate ones, that are nice for experimenting around but not so nice for live setups / trustworthy longterm usage... imho ofcourse) | | |
| I encountered many bugs.
In it's present state i find it barely usable (esp. the vst inferface). | | |
| | Hey guys ! What do you all think about Madtracker is it any good ? | | |
| If you definitely want to use FT2 e.g. for old time's sake or nostalgy, I guess you can use it over DOSBox or VDMSound emulators. I'm not sure about VDMSound because it focuses on Sound Blaster emulation in contrast to DOSBox which should also emulate different display modes.
DOSBox: http://dosbox.sourceforge.net
VDMSound: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound/
You might already have thought about these suggestions but I'd like to hear if they work in practice.[Post edited by nbsinner on Friday 11 March 2005 - 10:50] | | |
| | Renoise really is the shit ( or K0R3 as they say on the forums ). It summarizes tracking today. If you want newschool and to be on the edge, get Renoise today. If you prefer a little oldskool action, then MilkyTracker is the way to go. The upcoming version will put all trackers claiming to be Ft2 compatible in shame. Also in PocketPC flavor! [Post edited by raina on Tuesday 22 November 2005 - 16:57] | | |
| hey there .. well
since you're used ft2 you should use Renoise ONLY! late reply yes but i took this oppurtunity to say this to all of you .. Impulse Tracker 3 is actually still under construction .
A group called unreal is working on it. so don't give up your hopes on the tracking scene yet fellas!
/Platonist a.k.a the source, lunari, kloak etc .. whatever :D[Post edited by Platonist on Sunday 22 October 2006 - 22:04] | | |
| Renoise or Skale.
The first costs some bucks (check www.renoise.com) but rules hell, the second is free but fails in comparison.
Also check Modplug Tracker if you don't really care about newschool features like VST instruments. | | |
| personally i say psycle or skale...those are the ones i use... but whatever you do..
AVOID FRUITYLOOPS!!!! heh, avoid it like the plague
here's some music i done
http://68.102.38.232:8080/ | | |
| AVOID FRUITYLOOPS!!!! heh, avoid it like the plague
and why, if i may ask?
(note, i never used it, but my dear timppa- does and what he does with it rules, so i'm wondering where you got that bit of knowledge)[Post edited by skrebbel on Wednesday 9 March 2005 - 9:47] | | |
| | well, as an ex fruityloops user, i have to say, i wish i could trade the time i spent learning fruityloops for learning trackers.. true, they can make the same music, but trackers make you learn more, in fruityloops, i dont really have to worry about notes tones, i could make something kool, and not know what note its in, but w/ trackers, to write a good tune, it takes a little more skill, and your forced to learn more.. wich is good, but its all a matter of opinion, and if you prefer fruityloops, by all means, use fruityloops to make great songs, but keep in mind, most trackers are free as well, so you'll not have to break the bank to make your tunes if you get a tracker, i recomend skale | | |
| note that i never even tried FL. i just wondered what was so very wrong with it.
also, you need to use more periods :)
(dots. ends of sentences.) | | |
| Fruity Loops was installed on mij computer just to kick it off again after a few hours of terror.
You can do nice things with it but the hardcore tracker cannot appriciate a program like that. | | |
| | there's not anything "terribly" wrong with fruityloops, my main problem with it is that its not free, and i'm not for warez.. but, i also think that its more rewarding to make a good song in a tracker, because its a little more challenging :) always up for a challange ;) you can chek the stuff i did @ my website if your interested too http://68.102.38.232:8080/ | | |
| well I say whatever you need, use renoise! (do you have DC++ ;)If you have old FT2 songs, it will read them accurately enough (although not quite as they sounded in FT2).
The only thing that makes renoise better than ft2 is that you can use equalizer and reverb and stuff, which will nuanse the music more, and give you possibilities to create the music in your mind. On the minus side we have that, in FT2 you could load in anything, such as an .exe or .txt or whatever, and use as a sample (it sounded like shit, but sometimes you run across something cool) , but that is fixed in the new version of renoise, so there is no reason not to use it. I do all the basix shit in renoise, then I export each channel (track) as .wav and process further in like nuendo or something, but I am way too serious. I really enjoy the old-school style with a sine, a tri, a square, a noise and four channels only. that's making music on a basic level, and says a lot about ones ability to write. I'm not saying I rule, I'm saying it's a good way to challenge the pure musical skeleton within. Why am I writing this? because I don't want to go to math class, and hopefully y'all have something cool to reply. Peace /CS nooooob (owning) | | |
| How do you export .xm to .wav?
I'am asking since Milkytracker doesn't seem to have this feature. | | |
| 1. get xmplay un4seen.com
2. load your .xm on xmplay
3. options > dsp > change to wav writer or wav writer (normalize) > apply
4. press play | | |
| | Of course MilkyTracker has this feature. Just click Disk Op., select .WAV and click Save As. | | |
| As an old pt and ft2 trackerist I love skale. I'm sure you will, too. :)
You just can't beat that good ol' feeling. | | |
| fruity loops would be nice with a tracker.
afaik you have to use notation...:(
ok, making music by drawing notes and velocities may be nice too but a tracker is more efficient.
skale is i little buggy but does its job.
in my oppinion renoise is the best overall
tracker and exist as shareware too (if you don't need asio).
and there is buzz.
buzz gives you the advantages of a tracker plus
the ability to use modular tracks.
in an usual tracker (and even in renoise)
one pattern contains the whole instruments/fx.
imagine you have a bass running in pattern 01. in pattern 02 you want to add some drums. so you copy the bass from pattern 01 to pattern 02 and so on.
but in buzz each instrument/fx has its own pattern !
you would use a tracker for bass and another
tracker for the drums and so on.
so you don't have to copy the bass to use it together with the drums.
never seen that in another tracker.
if renoise would be like that i would definitly use it.
i use buzz since 1998 now and i still love it.
ofcouse you'll need some training-hours but
its far more flexible than any other tracker. even for its age.[Post edited by x_dynamics on Wednesday 1 November 2006 - 15:01] | | |
| | I'm with raztaman. I also like SkaleTracker, it's very much like old FT2, and works with windows. But I still recommend Renoise. It's a lot better. You can use VST instruments and effects with it with ease. It's an amazing trakcer. It's a bit different than the old FT2, but once you get used to it, you're wondering how you ever got along without it :). | | |
| | Hmm MadTracker is also a nice tracker :) But hey, im no pro. Suports VST to [Post edited by Flashlight on Thursday 9 November 2006 - 15:00] | | |
| no doubt, renoise IS the state of the art tracker these days. Skale is way too buggy ( as i heard ) Milkytracker is the newskool FT2 Tracker for those one, who doesnt wanna hazzle around with dosbox ( like me :p )
Btw. Ver 1.8 of renoise is about to be released (tested the beta) and its so phucking amazing ( a real mixer , u can record the line-in with vst -fx's and more weird stuff.
cheers
notorius | | |
| The last time I used Renoise it couldn't even manage to load a single VSTi properly.. but that might have changed now ofcourse. :)
Anyho; why keep tracking when there is simply just so much more fun doing music with MIDI/proper sample-handling? :) | | |
| | you dont seem to understand | | |
|
|
|
