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 | should scene.org delete partyreleases on request by author? |
| | | | no, all party releases belong in archive |  | 33.0% | (291) |
|  | | yes, if the author wants it removed | | 25.1% | (221) |
| | | yes, if there is a finalversion uploaded | | 18.5% | (163) |
| | | no, unless it wasnt shown or played | | 10.0% | (88) |
| | | yes, but only if it's breaking some law | | 8.7% | (77) |
| | | property copyright is not my field | | 4.8% | (42) |
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| we get ocasional mails by people asking to delete things.. here are several diferent cases and our usual way of action:
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Q: can you delete my prods with my name on it from scene.org? "they arent good enough" or "im getting signed to a label and they ask for name exclusivity."
A: we will remove things from your personal directory but we wont normally delete things from the party archives since you usually have an agreement with those entities.. so if you get ok from party orga to delete the prod we will do it, otherwise we want to archive all party releases for historical reasons.
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Q: i have a final version from the release, please delete the original.
A: do upload the final, we'll keep it next to the other release. we dont want to replace the old version though, for historical/archive reasons. if it's your personal directory we will gladly delete it if you think its no good anymore but for party releases we want to keep the original releases aswell, because its the version that actually entered the competition..
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Q: i asked the party orga not to spread it till i had final version but it leaked anyways..
A: we dont want to delete the compo version since historically that's the version people saw in the big screen and influenced the voting.
we do want you to upload the final version and we'll keep it on the same directory next to the compo version though.
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Q: my track wasnt preselected so i want it released somewhere else instead.
A: when you deliver any prod to a party you _usually_ are giving them the right to distribute it. unless you made a special agreement with the compo organizer to not release unless played (which is kinda lame way of putting pressure to get your tracked played if you ask me) we wont delete it from our archive just because it didnt place as you wished it had.
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It might sound abit harsh, and we don't follow this way of action strictly at scene.org, but when you're releasing something you know very well that it will be spread, if you don't think its good enough to be seen by the people who might check out the parties releases, then you shouldnt really be releasing it to the public in the first place.
Anyways, this poll + quick Q&A is how i (ps) see that the scene.org policy should be. It obviously might not coincide with the rest of scene.org staff and we don't really have settled rules for it, our way of action in those issues is mostly derived from jeffry's common sense.
So please feel free to opinate to let us know what the majority of the people out there thinks about this issue.[Post edited by psenough on Saturday 20 March 2004 - 21:25] | | |
| All of this is reasonable. If you're that embarassed about it, don't release it.
It would be nice to have a easy-access page for this so people/parties can link to it. | | |
| we'll put it on the faq/info section soon enough. Just figuring out general public's opinion and legal details..
soon (tm) (c) | | |
| I'm not an expert, but I think that from a legal point of view the author has the copyright to the entry and therefore you should remove the entry if he asks you to.
And the author might have given the rights to copy the entry to the party organisers, but he didn't give it to scene.org, so that too is a reason why I think that a judge would say that you should remove it.
But this is all from a legal point of view ofcourse, I think that people who ask you to remove their entry because it isn't good enough really suck :-)[Post edited by sparcus on Tuesday 23 March 2004 - 23:28] | | |
| | I think the only valid reason for removing a file is it being corrupted and/or unusable. | | |
| | You're damn right. People that want them out of there will be regretting it years later when they'd like to have some nostalgic moments and view old own productions. I'm still missing most of the old products that were made by a group I belonged to cause there was no huge internet then and no scene.org archive... Thumbs up, keep up the good work guys! | | |
| Nobody can give away his copyright. Any author owns the copyright as long as he/she lives.
Any author can sell/give away the right for exclusive or non exclusive distribution/publishing limited or unlimited (limited by time or media).
If an author demands to remove his work at scene.org there is no legal way to avoid it, except scene.org got an exclusive non revokable right to publish. | | |
| | Aren't libraries an exception? | | |
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